Noah and his family were Overcomers graciously removed, as the Ark rose above the trial/cleansing. (34 I tell you, in that night there will be two in one bed. As such, both passages contain material that was completely unknown and unknowable at our human level, before Jesus revealed it to us. To believe that the Rapture can happen at any time, and could possibly happen out-of-the-blue, with no connection to surrounding events and with no advance notice at all from Godsuch a view of the Rapture goes directly against the spirit of Amos 3:7. The rapture, often referred to as God graciously removing Overcomers from the trials/cleansing/judgements on the earth, is also seen in the account of the flood. Jesus is credited in John 1:1-3 as being the Creator of all things ("Without Him was not anything made that was made"). Jesus created time and is outside of the restrictions thereof. In the King James Version, in 5:9, we read, "And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed US to God by thy blood" The redeemed say this just before the first seal is opened, so that the Tribulation can begin. The Latin, Coptic or Memphitic, and Armenian, which are of great value, contain it. Escape all these things, then, could be a reference to Gods guiding and protecting hand for His people. The Rapture is described primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. Only the World and Satan are constrained by time. Then based on that, decide if you should include us as one of your resources with which you understand Bible prophecy. In either case, Paul would not be able to put any issue to rest by referring to something not yet revealed. Right? Believers will be received to Him and will enter the Kingdom. Yet when Jesus gathers the nations upon His arrival and . In both Luke 21 and Revelation 6-7, Jesus expresses the thought that for Him, the persecution of Tribulation saints is the most significant, or important aspect of the Tribulation, even more important than the other dramatic and miraculous events. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. In Christ dwells ALL the fullness of the Godhead bodily. The rapture, often referred to as God graciously removing Overcomers from the trials/cleansing/judgements on the earth, is also seen in the account of the flood. Each of us has a Spiritual gift that is prominent in us, and given to us by the Holy Spirit as He wills. The short time detail regarding Satan, is one of the GREATEST indicators that Revelation 12, and the birth of the man child, is speaking about the Rapture/Catching Up/Caught Upbefore the Great Tribulation. The only Entity who knew this prophetic truth before it was given to us, was Jesus Himself. Thus, Jesus didnt include 2b, otherwise He couldnt say Luke 4:21. Knowing the angle of the sun related to your position on the earth, we can approximate the time in minutes using 2/cos (a), as long as you're not too near the poles. Almost all newer or modern Bibles have the word them in place of us, in Revelation 5:9. This extraordinary incident was recorded by Josephus and Tacitus who lived during that period. We know the vss related to, He comes like a thief in the night etc., but can such verses contradict Luke 21 and what Jesus just taught us? Luke 21:36 is a passage many believers in the rapture will quote, which says, . Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. Dr. Tregelles, on full examination, was firmly convinced of its right to a place in the text, before the Codex Sinaiticus appeared; and the presence of this (us) in that MS, ought to settle the question of its genuineness forever. In John 16:14, Jesus said this of God the Holy Spirit: He shall glorify me. One of the most widespread beliefs in the Church is that Jesus did not know the day and hour of His return, which we have covered several times now. 28 When these things begin to take place . Jesus tells us to pray always, that we may be counted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and worthy to stand before the Son of man. God made the rapture as a way of escape so that we would be able to bear the tribulation. Are our friends and critics excited about looking Jesus in the eyes and being accountable to HIM for the heart attitude of saying, Jesus, YOU did not know! which is the result of an error in each Christians understanding of Gods Word, that too many chose NOT to investigate? We must be prepared to go with him! When Jesus says, "I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened", He is speaking of the rapture in the previous passage (Matt 24:29-31) and the fact that the "WWII generation" will not pass away until it happens. Meanwhile, others will not join them on this journey (Matthew 24:40-41 and Luke 17:34-36). If so, why? The Temple was seen as a microcosm of the world (Ps. In Amos 3:7, God reveals that it is His long-established tradition, or method of operation, to reveal to the affected population what He is going to do prophetically before He does it. Is the end result of our statements, bringing the fullest glorification of Jesus, that is possible? Jesus doesn't know the day and hour) should automatically be seen as suspect, and wrong. Satan would seize every opportunity . ALL things were made by Jesus, and without Jesus, nothing was made. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. What's Jesus talking about here? First, the Gospel message of Salvation is the most important decision that a non-believer can make. Both Luke 21 and Revelation 6-7 have the same miraculous fingerprints of authorship on themand those fingerprints belong to the One who was fully God-in-the-fleshJesus Christ, the eternal Son of God. Use the Contact Us button on our website: Or use Private Messenger through Facebook: Mark 13:32, "No One Except The Father Knows? John 16:13 The Holy Spirit will guide into all truth. (This is also a powerful underscoring of the truth that all prophecy must be fulfilled). vs. 3. Just because Daniel chapter 12 follows chapter 11 in the text, does NOT necessarily mean that the time of fulfillment of Daniel 12s prophecies are after the time of fulfillment in Daniel 11s prophecies. 12:11 tells us, ButtheSpirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.. So which viewpoint best satisfies the standard of Colossians 2:9? The Timeline Chart gives more vss showing the differences and adding even more clarity. We teach in agreement with Colossians 2:9, that Jesus deity was perfect when he was on the earth. The proof for this comes in 2 Thessalonians where Paul specifically applies to the church and says this, "you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. 1And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury. The first question I always get when I talk about teaching kids about the rapture is should we. However, Jesus mentions escaping all of the tribulations, not simply a singular destruction of the Temple. Here are fun facts to encourage our 3 second friends and critics to go through the Timeline article and video tutorialAs mentionedprophecy writing skips around. sudden, unawares. The pattern of Jesus description of the Tribulation in Revelation 6 is exactly the same as in His description of it in Luke 21! It is a result of our salvation that we go up in the rapture, which is the way of escape. Re: Luke 21:36. 25:31-46. Just like Jesus paid it all in suffering for our sinsJesus also knows it all when it comes to the time of the Rapture. There is no judgment, no punishment, and it will be a glorious day for all believers. Obviously we realize it is easy for anyone to claim the gift of understanding prophecy, and the first two questions you may be asking are: Well, how do I know the people at His Center have the gift of understanding prophecy? The temple in Jesus time was destroyed exactly as Jesus prophesied it would be. For more information about the sheep and goat judgment visit, "When and where does the Goat and Sheep judgment occur?" Revelation 20:1-5, Ezekiel 37:26-28, Ezekiel 11:20 and Zechariah 14:8-11. The Word of God says that we will have to endure tribulation. We, therefore, must take up our cross daily (die to our bias/selfishness/pride), to see how the Holy Spirit will guide into all truthand show us things to come! We must understand the timing of different prophecies by looking at the details in the passages, comparing them to other related prophetic passages, and making sure nothing contradicts any other part of Scripture, as mentioned. It is also difficult to escape something that you are not in. It carries over into a hangover that causes us to miss the total beauty of our Gospel salvation. In the Church, we too must know the importance of being ready (starting with what Jesus tells us in Luke 21 and in the Timeline Chart), and the consequences of NOT being ready. We cannot be safe, if we are carnally secure. Do our teachings and videos agree with other relevant Scriptures on the topics we are covering? The results? The extremely short version requires that we understand the History as to when the words were writtenThe thief in the night is part of the Jewish Culture and the Fall Festivals, and is directly related to how the High Priest would come like a thief to the other Priestsmeaningif the lower Priests were not ready for the arrival of the High Priest, because they were not watching at the right timethose Priests were cast out into the street with only their undergarments (meaning their clothes were taken from them like a thief). The term where we get the English "rapture" IS in the Bible. Just like the Tower of Babel, this false perversion of what Bible prophecy is, allows mankind to think that they are closer to the level of Jesus, in terms of prophecy. 12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. BOTH parts are essential for there to be a Bible prophecy. Christians worry unnecessarily of losing their salvation. Anyone who misses the rapture won't find it interesting, since the grace of God won't be available to help anyone. Both Luke 21 and Revelation 6-7 are a prophetic description of the Great Tribulation. ALL things that the Father has are mine (Jesus). Daniel 11 ends with a description of the Antichrists demise in verse 45; Daniel 12:1-2 takes us back to a time several years earlier (or even a millennium earlier), when the resurrection of the saints occurs. And to discredit it, simply and only because it does not appear in that one single Codex of Alexandria, is most unreasonable and unjust to the weight of authority for its retention. 11 A critical problem for the posttribulational rapture view is its inability to explain the Sheep and Goat Judgment of Matthew Mat. This command is given to all Christ's disciples, Take heed to yourselves, that ye be not overpowered by temptations, nor betrayed by your own corruptions. Both tenses of the term before are being used in the one word before in Luke 21:12. Remember, at the time this was written, the air represented the first heaven. Genesis 4:21 His brother was named Jubal; he was the father of all who play the lyre and the flute. Evaluate our teaching based on whether it truly satisfies the standard, set by the Holy Spirit, that Jesus Christ should at all times be fully glorified. Only God/Jesus the Christ, could perform and reveal to us the kind of prophetic truth we find in Luke 21 and in Revelation 6-7. The rapture wasnt about to happen, but the destruction of Jerusalem, of which He had just spoken, was (Luke 21:12-24). Holy Spirit, we pray asking for the fulfillment of your purpose as defined in John 16:13-15. Jesus said these things in 32 AD. Luke 21:36 is a passage many believers in the rapture will quote, which says, But watch at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that will take place, and to stand before the Son of man. They believe that this passage is saying that we could escape all of the tribulations spoken of earlier on in Luke 21, which would mean that Luke 21:36 is a reference to a pre-trib rapture. Yes, God is gracious, and ultimately we as believers are no longer under condemnation, as Romans 8:1 says. 2 He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins. However, escaping the tribulations could be a reference to a few other things. Some believe this means that the Church will be removed from the earth before the judgment of God - Pre-Trib Rapture. AND OF THE LAMB. The following is in response to the initial question and to disprove that Luke 21:20-24 is referring only to the destruction of the Temple, and Jerusalem, in 70 A.D. Please review our Timeline and accompanying video tutorial on our website to see how God chose to present Revelation. 24:13, 22) and, as Tribulation survivors, stand before Christ as "sheep" (Mat. We each have our Spiritual gifts. GUIDING US INTO ALL TRUTH, THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL SHOW US THINGS TO COME. Bible prophecy is defined as Gods ability to speak the future into existenceAs the Alpha and Omegaeverything has already happened for the Creator and Author. This great work of God is leading us to the end of this age when Christ will return to rapture the Christians, and then set up His earthly kingdom for the Jews. What is the definition of, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye? 30; Luke 21:25-27), and consequently also deny the promise of the rapture as an escape for true believers from the coming tribulation (Luke 21:36; 1 Thess. No! We are left with one possibility. A trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible. vs. 17 THEN, after those Christians that have died have their bodies miraculously put back together and raptured, or caught up to Him in the cloudsthen the Overcomers, which are alive and remain, shall be caught up together with THEM in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4. Where is your faith? When they now shoot forth (budding), ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. The Rapture really does happen but just as Matthew 24 states it is at the end of the great tribulation time, at the LAST TRUMPET. Here are the key facts we have gathered up to this point: Luke 17:37 and Matthew 24:28 indicate that some will be sent to a place where birds will be flying over dead bodies. Remember the following. Life in the age to come is not a continuation of present earthly life, but is a different kind of life altogether (Luke 20:34-36; cf. Jack Kelley published over 9,000 Bible Study resources here from 1999, until the Lord called him home in the fall of 2015. However, you will find the teaching. Systematic Eschatology, search thief found on pages 3, 34, 51 & 74. In both the rapture and in the Lord's return to the earth, there are those who are taken and those who are left behind. 15:52. vs. 16 another confirmation of the trump of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Read full chapter. This passage might sound like it is describing the Rapture but it isn't. Here are the open, public standards God has provided in His word, which should be used, to evaluate if we can truly assist you in understanding Bible prophecy: Use the Contact Us button on our website: HisCenter.com, Or use Private Messenger through Facebook: HisCenter.com on Facebook, If you dont believe in a Rapture, please find our position near the bottom of this article.*. 1 Cor. From the 10 Virgins parable (10 Virgins makes them all Christians), only half were prepared/taken. Luke 21:25-28. Luke 21:7-36 New King James Version The Signs of the Times and the End of the Age 7 So they asked Him, saying, "Teacher, but when will these things be? "Do not be caught off-guard by the fear-filled tides of history," Jesus warned. ANSWER:Yes, some people do believe that it is speaking of a pre tribulation rapturesome people will be caught away and will not be here on the earth during the great tribulation period. As a result, airplanes, ships, cars, trains end up being uncontrolled with horrendous results. Rather than adjust Gods words, we should instead, adjust how WE READ His prophetic words. When miraculous signs are taking place in the skies such as vss 25-27 talk about, Jesus cant come as a thief then, the miraculous signs are fulfilling His Prophetic Word! We do not figure out the timing of prophetic passages by simply noting the order in which they are found in the text, as shown. Now, the emphasis in Luke 21:21 on fleeing Jerusalem when it is about to be trodden down by the Gentiles (Lk. Lastly, if we are to believe Jesus doesnt know the timing of the end but the Father only (especially after reading the quick articles mentioned above), then how is it possible for a limited knowledge Jesus, to teach the timing of the end in Chapter 21 of Luke? There are other prophecies in the Bible where this type of thing happens: There is at least 2,000 years between the time of fulfillment for Micah 5:2 and 5:3. Many Christians assume He's describing the rapture and . And as you read them, consider this issue: limiting the Savior, Jesus Christ. What does Colossians 2:9, and other relevant Scriptures, say? How can they when, Jesus comes as a thief to those not prepared at the Rapture. We also know of only one other major figure in History who taught the same way. Ignoring Jesus teaching, causes us to believe a liewhich is I need to be ready at ALL times for the Rapture.. If a person is a Christianand all Christians are rapturedhow can we become worthyto escape? Luke 21:36 says, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." The instructions to watch and pray refer to us checking ourselves and making sure that we are ready. Then He goes back to the beginning of the Tribulation, and describes the persecution of Tribulation saints. The event Jesus is describing is the Rapture, here also associated with the opening of a door. In Revelation 3:7, Jesus says that He can open the door because He carries the key of David. Noah and his family were Overcomers graciously removed, as the Ark rose above the trial/cleansing. Jesus was born 2,000 years ago. Any doctrine that brings Jesus' prophetic ability down toward our human level (i.e. All. Watch for the signs Jesus told us to watch for in Luke 21 and many other verses (Timeline Chart and video). The view that Jesus was ignorant of the day and houror the view that Jesus deity was perfect, and that He DID know the day and hour? Though we recommend the book in its entirety. vs. 32 UNDERSTAND that, from the timing of Luke 21:7-9, . Copyright 2023. Whatever Christ meant, the text does not have to mean a pre-tribulational rapture. It is also interesting that when Jesus revealed truth about the Tribulation to John in the book of Revelation (see Revelation chapters 6-7), Jesus used the same pattern that He used in Luke 21! 1 As Jesus looked up, he saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. The timing of a prophetic passage is determined by the details described within that passage. We believe, based on these and many other verses, Jesus wants us to know ALL things that He has revealed to us. Prophecy, Serving, Teaching, Exhortation, Giving, Leadership, Mercy, Word of wisdom, Word of knowledge, Faith, Gifts of healings, Miracles, Prophecy, Distinguishing between spirits, Tongues, Interpretation of tongues, Whoever speaks, Whoever renders service. 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